There are many strategies for motivating people to act toward the desired outcome. Today, we will look at a different perspective in allowing your team to engage themselves in utilizing their potential. In this episode, Galina Lipina, a Certified NeuroChangeSolutions Consultant and an NCS HeartMath Certified Consultant, shares her format in teaching corporations to use neuroscience to lead their teams. Galina is professionally trained and certified by #DrJoeDispenza to deliver his work to professionals and companies. In the course of her work, she found that fixing the inside allows change in things for growth. Galina also explains that the longer an individual stays in a state of stress and burnout, the longer it takes to recover. But how can you recover from that chronic stress? Tune in RetreatBoss Podcast to find restoration and balance in your heart and brain coherence.
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Corporations Using Neuroscience To Lead Their Teams
We have the beautiful Galina Lipina. She is a Certified Life Coach, an international speaker and trainer, a certified NeuroChangeSolutions Consultant who has been trained and certified by the amazing Dr. Joe Dispenza, who I love . She is also an NCS HeartMath Certified Consultant. Galina, you’re so qualified for many things. Welcome to the show.
Thank you, Catherine. I’m happy to be here.
I’m excited to have you on the show because of all your qualifications and how you can help corporations with their teams and individuals as well at the retreats. The qualifications from Dr. Joe Dispenza excites me so much because I value what he stands for, and what he coaches and teaches to people like yourself and everybody in the public. Obviously, he’s famous for that. Tell me what it was like to learn from him.
It’s been an amazing journey. I found him through a friend of mine who has actually healed her back injury by doing his meditations. She did a bunch of tests. When the doctors did the tests on her, they told her that her bones, however, heal ten times faster than humanly possible. She was doing Dr. Joe’s meditation. I’m like, “Dr. Joe who? I need to learn this.”
A few months later, I went to his retreat in Niagara Falls, and it was just this immediate resonance with his teachings. He combined everything I stand for like the effectiveness, the spirituality, the physics, the spiritual but bringing it down to the practical in such an amazing way. It scientifically explained all the different coaching modalities that I got trained in. I’m like, “I’m in.” I went all in. Two weeks later, I volunteered in his retreat in Moscow. Four months later, I volunteered in Dubai and then pandemic was a little break. A year after the pandemic, I did a nonstop retreat on whatever his retreats were.
Halfway through the year, I was talking to a friend of mine and I was like, “I wish I could just do this work and nothing else. I don’t have to have another job or source of income. I want to do this work.” He’s like, “Have you thought of becoming a NeuroChangeSolutions consultant?” I’m like, “What’s that?” He’s like, “Dr. Joe trains you, and then you teach his work to businesses and companies, and help them apply all these concepts to increasing whatever business results that they want. It all comes from the inside of how we handle stress and how we manage our brain and our hearts. We are in the optimal state that allows for creativity, new ideas, and collaboration.” I was like, “That sounds amazing.” I applied. There was a strict application process. My intention was clear, so I got in and I got trained and certified. It’s been an amazing journey.
I’ve done a few retreats like open workshops, so people from different companies come and train. I’m currently in a few conversations to potentially host the corporate training, which is like my goal and dream is actually to train teams that work together on a common shared goals to empower them with those tools. Then measure the results so they can see that meditation is not just for yogis, it can help you in work too.
How would you use it in a corporate space? You’re saying about teams, but tell me a little bit more. If I were to hire you, would there be a limit of amount of people? Would it be like a small type of team building retreat? Would it be more like you can handle even 300 or 1,000? What would that look like? What would they get as tools? What would they be able to fix by the end of it? What would they come out of it with?
There are different applications of heart and brain technologies. They’re very well-suited to help people with stress and burnout. When people feel stressed, it’s usually in reaction to their outer environment or their inner thoughts and feelings. It usually causes their brain to go in this incoherent state of high beta brainwave pattern, where they can’t think straight and they can’t make good decisions. It impacts their health if it’s prolonged. Helping them understand what stress is and how they can build that resilience so they can stay in that balanced state, even when the environment is crazy and the demands are high, that allows people to be more in control of their mind and their life.
Another application of this is teaching people how to change, and what is change on the neuroscience perspective. When companies go through an organizational change, whether they hired a new CEO that wants to change things around, or it’s some merger and acquisition going on, or they’re putting in a new HR system in place, handling the people side of change is important because if it’s not handled, people are stressed, they are uncertain about their future. Many people quit, many people fight, and they become very self-focused and less collaborative. Teaching them these tools will allow them to work better as a team and also feel better in the state of unknown. We are going through a lot of unknown these days, and building that resilience and adaptability is a very important skill for any kind of job situation.
You’re 100% right on that. There’s a lot of structure change because of COVID and what happened. A lot of teams are no longer teams. They’re working remotely across the world, and it’s going to stay like that. They need to reconnect. It’s great to have a remote team and it’s great to work from home or from wherever, but you need to reconnect with the team to make sure that the visions are still there, that we’re all working on the same path. The ideas could change, loneliness could creep in, then you disconnect from your team. What you’re doing is very valuable for these corporations. I know they’re starting to see that.
There’s one company that I’m consulting right now as a project manager. They’re also going through a massive change, and they’re very open to all of this. They’re planning budgets for it. They are dedicating resources to maintaining and building the right team culture, and planning for trainings for their people to support them. The companies that are moving forward know it’s important.
This is my message to corporations out there. You’re saving a lot of money with these remote teams. Use some of that money to bring it back into a retreat space or a workshop where you’re reconnecting these teams. In the end, that little money that you’ve saved from being remote will come back to you tenfold and even more from productivity. There’s nothing greater than having the people that work for you, your staff, feel like that they’re part of a team and part of a family. They’re actually rooting for the corporation that they’re working for versus b*tching about it. The other thing that you do is HeartMath. Can you explain what that is for the people that don’t know what it is, and how you would utilize it during your workshops or retreats?
HeartMath is an amazing company. It’s a non-profit organization. They have been around for more than 20 years. Their mission is all around studying the sciences of the heart and heart coherence. Not the heart like the blood pumping organ, but more like how it’s connected to our nervous system, how it’s connected to our emotional regulation, and how it’s connected to our brain. Research shows that actually the heart sends more signals to the brain than the brain sends to the heart. When we are in stressful states, our heart is incoherent.
Research shows that the heart sends more signals to the brain than the brain sends. So when we are in stressful states, our heart is incoherent.
The good thing about HeartMath is they’re a research company, so they measure everything. They have a couple of devices, but Inner Balance is the one that you can connect to your ear and connect it through the Bluetooth with your phone, that can measure your heart coherence in real time. There are tools that they’ve developed that people can use to train to become more heart coherent over time. Heart coherence tolerates with emotions of balance, ease and peace, and relaxation. Versus the incoherence is connected with anger, stress, resentment, and worry.
A lot of people try to tackle stress on the logical level. What HeartMath brings is handling it on the heart level, on the emotional level. They have all sorts of research around what it that actually does for people in different professions. Police officers and doctors utilize it a lot because they go through a lot of stressful situations.
It’s applied for corporate environments too because if you’re always in this fight and flight survival state, it’s usually the brain isn’t coherent and your heart isn’t coherent. You can actually start balancing it from either direct. NeuroChangeSolutions trainings introduce both, the thoughts and the feelings, and the HeartMath mostly focuses on the heart and the feelings.
In my trainings, I give people the science so they can understand better how things work, but also give them practical tools that they can shift their states in two minutes. You’re coming out of a stressful meeting and you have a two minute break before the next one. You can just do a few simple exercises and bring yourself back to balance, so that you’re more present and you’re more available to the next one.
I think the combination of the two is ideal. I could see this being used not only in corporations, but like you said, police officers and anybody in the paramedics, hospitals because they’re always in a stressful situation. In corporations, we’re often stressed and stress bring brings on disease. You can’t be on a constant state of stress. I know Dr. Dispenza teaches that. It’s a fact. I’m surrounded by a lot of cancer survivors because I’m a cancer survivor myself for nine years now. The common denominator with every single person is they either had a trauma right before, or they were living in constant stress, whether it was work related, marriage, whatever it is. They always mention something related to stress. In order to keep your employees healthy, productive, less sick days, and all of that, if they could control this as well as having the tools that you’re going to give them with everything else, we’ll just keep on giving them a gift.
What I love about all the tools, Dr. Joe’s NeuroChangeSolution tools and HeartMath, is they don’t take a long time and you can use them everywhere. It’s very practical. There are longer types of meditations that you can do for 1 hour or 2 or longer, but if you can have something in your toolbox that can help you in a matter of minutes and you are used to practicing that skill. For example, I meditate regularly and use my heart monitor to see how things are going. When I get off balance, I notice it immediately because to me it feels not normal anymore. Whereas for most people, it feels normal to be stressed. They feel proud of themselves how well they handle it, and they should be. Wouldn’t it be nice to change that internal state? You can still handle a lot and feel really good while you do it.
For most people, it feels normal to be stressed. They feel proud of themselves and how well they handle it, and they should be. But wouldn’t it be nice to change that internal state?
People don’t stop to take the time to listen to their body. That’s the whole thing about the meditation practice. You get to really go back to baseline. Often, we don’t know what our baseline is because we’ve never been there. We’ve never practiced the skills or the tools that have been given to us or we just don’t know. It’s hard to stay in that baseline all the time obviously, but to be able to, what you’re going to do is give the tools to recognize that baseline so they could try to achieve it as often as possible.
They can make that state a habit instead of the other state.
Recognize, “Something is wrong with my body or I’m off today. My mind is wandering. I’m stressed.” Other times, like you said, people don’t even realize they’re in that constant state of stress all the time. It’s their normal, and it shouldn’t be.
It was like that for me years ago before I discovered all this work. I was working as a project manager in a big company. I created my path to financial freedom, so I retired on investment income at that time. It took me a year of doing absolutely nothing to have my energy restored. Wow. I thought a couple weeks’ vacation should be fine. No, for a year, I didn’t want to do anything other than sleep and eat and go to the beach and just relax.
You were burnt out.
I was burnt out. There are many people who are in that state. I have one of my former bosses, an amazing woman. That’s another thing to know. When we are the way we are, we think it’s the outer environment, but very often, we attract that match to us. She shifted different jobs, different profession. She stayed in her management position, but she shifted different companies. Every company she went into was the same level of overwhelm, and it caused her some health challenges and all of that. She’s like, “I know I need to handle it. It’s not physical, it’s all the stress, it’s all the mental state.” Taking care of ourselves is very important.
I think everybody knows that. They just don’t practice it, or maybe they just don’t know how. There are many reasons why. Let’s say we took you in that situation that you were in, and we gave them the knowledge that you could provide and the tools that you could give them to help them. What difference would there be in the timeline as to their recovery?
Hopefully, I wouldn’t need the recovery because I will be in a good state. Potentially, it would shorten it much more. I look at stress as stress and burnout. Stress is like you feel stressful in the moment, but burnout is chronic stress. If you’re stressed 24/7 for months and months, the longer is the period that you feel in that state, the longer the time that you need to recover. Also, how do you recover? Most people just go on vacation and they drink Mai Tai by the pool, which is great, being in nature and by the water is really helpful.
Burnout is chronic stress. So the longer you feel in that state, the longer the time you need to recover.
These tools for practicing the heart coherence, the brain coherence, the different meditations, they allow people to restore that balance faster, and not just use the outside environment to then control their state to be better. Some people go party. Some people go drinking. Some people go play sports. You’re still like a victim to the environment, but in a good way. You’re using the environment to impact you positively. The tools that we teach actually allow people to create that state from inside out. They feel in control and they know it’s only up to them. Once they master it, no person, no thing, no place will move you from that state. That’s the end goal. It takes some time to get there of course.
Tell me something basically that maybe people don’t know about you, that will give you that edge over other people with what you do. Maybe it could be something quirky or whatever. I personally love you. You have such a great personality. You exude a very genuine joyous energy, and that’s attractive. People are attracted to that. I think you would really connect with the people that you work with no matter how difficult the situation or a person may be to how easy or how sensitive they might be. I think you can handle all of that because of your personality. That’s my opinion and that’s what I see in you. I would like you to tell me what you feel would make people connect with you because of something that maybe we don’t know.
It’s hard to see what people don’t know about me because I’m pretty open book. I’m from Russia. I can very much relate with people who moved to this beautiful country of United States of America and getting established here. Also having been exposed to different cultures, I obviously grew up in Russia, I’ve lived in United States for many years, I lived in Costa Rica for three years. I traveled the world. I’ve been in corporate. I’ve been in small business startups. I’ve been on a solopreneur journey. I’ve been an investor. I’ve made money. I lost a lot of money.
I had some good highs like retiring when I was 33, and I had some pretty big lows like losing $1 million and having no plan to repay it. In those states, the mind tends to focus on, “How do I fix that thing outside there?” What I found is fixing the inside is what changes things. As long as I was in the emotions of guilt, self-blame and whatever, nothing was changing. There were no solutions coming. The more I shifted into hope, belief, and self-compassion, and my trust that I can create anything, I really believe that, at certain point when sh*t went way south, I stopped believing that for some time. I was in a pretty dark place for a while. It wasn’t like a one-second shift. It took months.
I came out of it, and I saw that we never attract things to our lives that we’re not ready to handle. If it feels that way, it’s probably not true. Knowing that we can create what we’re destined to create, and it’s just a matter of connecting with ourselves to figuring out what’s next. For some people, it’s the business focus. For some people, it’s growing inside a bigger company. For some people, it’s focusing on relationships because their money is fine, but they’re single for too long. For some people, it’s addressing health. One fact, I love health. I do all sorts of crazy things with my body. I did dry fasting, which is like no food, no water for seven days, multiple times. I did it five times now, and that has been incredible.
You can’t live without water after three days.
That’s a common misconception. Disclaimer, I do not recommend it to do it with medical supervision. I did it under guidance of a woman.
Can I ask why? I’m a foodie. I’m like, “I’d rather die than be without food.”
People are like, “I can do no food with no water?” It was actually interestingly that dry fast was much easier for me than water fast. No headaches, no dizziness, nothing. Many people do dry fasting for health reasons because they want to clear some health conditions. For me, I really needed a mental reset. I talked to my dad who’s done dry fasting for many times, but I have always looked at him like he was crazy. Then I just had this knowing, “Maybe I should try this,” because I meditate for hours and I’m still not able to get to the balanced state. I need something heavier. I researched and I talked to people who have done it. I’ve talked to people who have guided other people doing that.
What I’ve found is dry fasting works way faster than water fasting. A week of dry fast is equivalent to 40 days of water fast in its depth. Also, it provides a lot of benefits in the mental, emotional, and spiritual states. For me, I don’t know how it happened. On my first dry fast, first few days were so tough, but not physically. All the emotions that I was suppressing came straight to the surface because I no longer used food and drinks to try to not feel things. When I stopped drinking even water, I noticed how many times a day I was like, “I don’t feel well. Let me go drink something. Let me go eat something.”
When I took that away, I had to sleep with those emotions. I’m like, “That’s a lot. I don’t know how I can handle it.” In five days, it was like a clean slate. I had no sadness. All of it went away and I felt so present. I would touch a tree and I would cry because of how beautiful it was. When I started creating, it was from a clean slate. Instead of trying to overcome all these dark emotions from all these external stressors, it was just clean and silent.
Every time I do it, day five is usually I hit that state. I use that periodically when I feel like I’m stepping into the new chapter, or I need a reset, or at a certain point my body is like, “I don’t want to eat anymore.” I was like, “Time to fast.” It has amazing benefits, but people need to consult somebody before they do it. They want to make sure all of that because there are many conditions it’s not recommended for.
I’m generally healthy. I did get it for the first time under guidance of a woman who has a dry fasting retreat center in Ukraine for ten years. She guided like hundreds and thousands of people through this experience. I know when something is going on, it’s okay, or when something’s going on, it’s not okay, and I need to do something different.
As a joke, she must have saved a lot of money on that retreat because there’s no food or water.
To me, it’s amazing. It’s like you save money on food, you save time because you don’t need to shop for food, make food, clean up the dishes. You save money and time. Also, you get more time because when you dry fast, you sleep much less. On average, it was 3, 4 hours a night, and that was it. I have had many hours in my day to focus on everything else. It was phenomenal.
I’m assuming you didn’t do anything physical. Were you skating?
You have to walk a lot. Movement is very necessary so your lymphatic system keeps moving and all of that, but not hard work. I wouldn’t do marathons or anything, but minimal movements and maybe some trampolines. It’s very necessary.
I think Tai Chi would be good for that also.
Yeah, yoga stretching very well.
I will never try it. I know myself, I would never do it. First of all, I can’t for health reasons. It’s not attractive to me, but if it could give you the benefits that you get from it like you’re saying, then absolutely do it. Of course, you consult first. Please consult first, whoever is reading this. It’s nice to meet somebody that did it though. How can people reach out to you? You have a website that you launched. What’s the website called?
The website is TurningPoint.pro. You can find everything about what I do there. There’s a contact form and the ability to book a call with me. I’m also on LinkedIn, Galina Lipina. I probably will launch a YouTube channel soon, so you can find me there as well.
Anybody who is reading this, you are there to be hired for corporate team building retreats and leadership. I’m sure there are a few other things. Anybody who wants to create that environment of connection within their corporation should look up Galina. Thank you so much for being here and sharing your knowledge and everything that you have to offer. I truly value your experience and knowledge in all this, and your time for being here today on your birthday.
Thank you, Catherine. I’m very grateful to be here. I also realized I didn’t answer fully one of your questions of the formats that I teach people. Yes, retreat is one way. We can also teach people online because in this day and world, many teams are remote. The formats of the teaching are very flexible. Whether you have a corporate retreat that you want to incorporate this into, or you want to put a training stretched over multiple weeks and a few hours in a week, that’s also available. We’re evolving with the modern day and age, so all of this is available.
Thank you for clarifying that. It’s very important so they know what they could do with you. Please reach out to Galina. For anybody who’s looking to take courses on retreat planning or some type of training for your human resources or your social events person at your corporation, reach out to RetreatBoss.com, or available for those types of training, or just hire us and we do it all for you. Have a wonderful day. Until next time, see you at RetreatBoss.com.
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About Galina Lipina
Galina Lipina was originally born in Russia. She moved to USA after completing her Master’s in Computer Science. She is a project manager with 12+ years of experience in big corporations and startups. She also has a big passion for human transformation and creating the life you want. She is a certified life coach with 10+ years of experience, an international speaker and a trainer. She is a certified NeuroChangeSolutions consultant (trained and certified by Dr Joe Dispenza to deliver his work to professionals and companies) and an NCS Heartmath Certified Consultant (HeartMath institute spent 20+ years researching the science of heart coherence and its impact on a person’s health and well-being). She also has a passion for dance. Having done ballet, ballroom and salsa dancing for many years, her main love of the last 10 years is kizomba and semba dancing, which is an amazing heart-centered partner dance from Angola. She traveled all over the world for kizomba dance festivals, taught and performed internationally and won 2nd place in an international semba competition in Lisbon Portugal, only having practiced with her dance partner Phillyp Chanlatte for a week prior to that. Galina loves to travel. And after working in corporate for a while while having a life coaching business on the side, she decided to create freedom lifestyle after reading Tim Ferris’s “4 Hour Workweek.” book. She set a goal to get to $100K/year passive income so she can travel the world and spend her time coaching and working on other projects that inspire her. She set the goal to get there in 2 years, and she did. So she quit her corporate consulting, traveled the world, focused on coaching and training. She lived in Costa Rica for 3 years. She is now combining her passion for transformation and business, and while still doing project management consulting, she also provides services in Change Management, Leadership Development, Executive Coaching, and neuroscience-based